Saturday, April 19, 2025

The Payne and Haynes (African descended) families in Monroe and Greenbrier are the same family - all descended from Martha Payne

See Martha Payne, wife of Burton Payne of Fluvanna, Virginia with whom she shared two sons - Socrates & Albert.   Probably sold around 1858 to Elizabeth S (Stuart I think or Smith), a 22 year old schoolteacher who along with her mother, took them from Fluvanna to Lewisburg.  Martha (on Emancipation Day) married Solomon "Saul" Haynes (who this writer believes was somewhat younger - see census).   Before the marriage a few children were born to Elizabeth including this writer's greatgrandmother Elizabeth (named after the enslaver).  I am not sure of Elizabeth's father and would not even dare to hazard a guess.   After the marriage more children were born including James.    Solomon used the Haynes surname after his stepfather, Saul, as did all of the other children except for Albert.  Albert maintained the surname Payne - but went back and forth between Haynes and Payne.  This is why it appeared decades later to be two families - Haynes and Payne but it was one family - all descended from Martha. Martha's husband William Burton Payne was and is quite the figure in Palmyra.  He owned over a hundred acres of land which housed many family members and was known as Payne Town.  He was owned by and worked for the Wills family (doctors) and he was a doctor's assistant for a few doctors.   He was across the river when Martha and the boys were sold.   Martha and the two boys were sold after the death of the older doctor as they were a part of his Estate.  I have been to Fluvanna.  It is very small.  I walked the ?tow path by the river and imagined that Martha had also walked there.  Certainly Burton did.  Burton ended up marrying another Martha (so this causes some confusion in the trees that are on Ancestry).  However, I believe that the Lewisburg Haynes and Payne and the Fluvanna Payne families have it all sorted out by now.  Much information is contained in the Fluvanna Historical Society and one Fluvanna Payne member has done an extensive genealogy search which resulted in a book.   The Lewisburg family has periodic reunions called the Spotts - Payne family reunion.   I recently met the husband of a political podcaster who is from Union, Monroe County.  His parents knew Lloyd Erskine Haynes - Lloyd was the great grandson or grandson of Socrates Payne Haynes.  Lloyd had been the Mayor of White Sulphur Springs, West Virginia.   There are two conflicting stories about either Socrates or Albert trying to find Burton.  The Lewisburg story is that Albert was ready to go to try to find Burton but at the last minute he reconsidered as he thought that his trip to find his father might insult the man who raised him - his stepfather Saul Haynes.   The Fluvanna story has it that it was Socrates who actually went to Fluvanna but Burton had already died.    It doesn't matter - we have all found each other now.   

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